1. Hello everybody. Can you introduce yourself in a few words (age, job, career, etc.)?
: I'm 42 years old. I'm in Human Resources (but now I'm starting from scratch). My passions are mainly music (techno / house / reggae / rock) and computer science. I am divorced and I have an 18 year old daughter in my care.
: I started computing in 1978. I did my first programs on TI57, then Motorola 6800, and finally Z80, the race beast of the 1980s ... My computers were: Sharp MZ-80K, Sinclair ZX80, Sinclair Spectrum, Amstrad CPC464, then 6128. On the 6128 I cracked and compiled everything that came out, but I only spread them locally. Finally in 1990 I bought an Atari 520 ST. Amazing! It was easy to code thanks to Devpac2 and GFA BASIC.
2. When was the group born exactly? Under what conditions?
: This is Dr Trap
who made us meet at a copy party.
: Around the year 92, I was on RTEL and I was in contact with a member of ICS
who was looking for a swapper on the Paris region. We met and started to swap solo for them. Some time later, I had a nice contact on RTEL with a guy named Vincent (Supremacy
) who swapped too. One day he had a dinner party and I met Laurenzo who swapped for The Replicants
. Rather than making an absurd plague of quality and speed, we partnered since we had two different sources of games and founded Passwords
with other friends, swappers and coders. We also had competitors for the swap (I can not remember their name); I contacted their chief on RTEL and we joined our networks and created Euroswap.
: Actually, Sark and Laurenzo asked me to make CDs for Passwords when they saw my Noware
compilations (the first group I created). We created the new name Euroswap. It was a bit ambitious, but well...
3. How many members did the Euroswap union count?
: Whew, I have to watch the intros! Many guys came in and out of Euroswap ...
The main members at the beginning were: Sark, myself, The Cop, Testament, Archon ... all within the Paris area. Afterwards, we grew a lot and recruited members in the provinces: Darko, Killers, Achernar, Nurse, The Arrow, Header / Warrior, Kovax, GFA, Phymax, Shiver, Amigdal, Antaeus, FTL, François, Doctor X, Skywalker, SPA 160, ST 123, Sademan, Unlawful, Winner, Zastaph, Ynexys ... there was a period when Euroswap had about 20 members throughout France, Belgium and Switzerland. I remember that Euroswap was created about 2 years after the creation of Passwords. Euroswap was composed of 3 groups: Passwords, Killer's Group and Exo7 ... Killer's group and Exo7 did not swap or little: they were in charge of the intros, of which, Exo7
made some very beautiful ones.
4. Why did you choose to compile games? Have you never been part of the demo scene?
: Personally I coded a bit (I did some intros), but not enough to make demos. I participated in several coding parties at the time, but more as a pirate than a coder! In fact, it happened to us to come at CP with some original games and give them to the Replicants or Fuzion, in order to crack them live. We then made the compilation. The choice imposed itself: with my contacts, I had absolutely everything that came out of the Atari cracking scene.
5. Was it really the war with Supremacy? If yes, why ?
: No, we can not talk about war with Supremacy
but only with some members, as we were friends with others. For example, (Kovax
were both in Euroswap and Supremacy, although Kovax got confused and left Supremacy quickly.
Our main enemy at Supremacy was Corpo
, who was a mental patient, who did everything to confuse us with ICS and the other members of Supremacy. And he did not appreciate that we 'stole' their cracker Kovax.
6. How were the tasks distributed? What relationships did you have with other groups?
: Initially, I did everything from A to Z on CDs. lolo provided me the news, then it was direct from the groups of pirates when we became more well known. Everything was happening on the Minitel 3615 RTEL - the big time! After a while some groups started making intros for us, Laurenzo started making CDs, and I dropped a little because less of me was needed.
: Each cracker used his own routines at the time, with a good disassembler. Overall we had very good relationships with crackers / demo groups, but worse with other groups of swappers if that makes sense.
I was personally in touch with:
Aurel ST + Achernar + Corpo + Kovax + Gizmot of Supremacy
Little Guy from Bad Boy Belgium / Replicants
Cameo + Ellfire + Orion + Fulcrum + Replicants Jack / Fuzion
Hitcher + Pilgrim + Prowler + Rater of Pulsion
R-Boy of Extract
Rhys + JPC from ICS
Xorf from Zuul
JFF + Doctor X + Slayer from Climax
as well as a lot of demo groups: Abstract, Fatal Design, Diamond Design, Delight, Melon Design, etc.
7. What were your favorite software tools?
: Obviously copiers, compacters, Deluxe Paint and all that is used for intros, disk copying, file compacting and sound/graphics ripping.
: My favorite packer was Speedpacker 3
, we did not do better once we started using that one. Otherwise, the program I used the most is of course Fastcopy Pro ...
8. What were your favorite demos and games?
: Delight's demos have been my favorites ... especially on Amiga! As for the games, Dungeon Master
and Cannon Fodder
were my favorite ones.
9. When did the group leave the ST scene? Why?
: We left her forced and forced: nothing came out and all the groups went to the Amiga. We were one of the last on ST. Just see our last compiations and those of Fuzion (where we are thanked)...
10. What became of Euroswap afterwards?
: We continued on Amiga (some compilations as well as cracks) and we still exist on PC ... very discreetly. But we also make some compilations of games, with French versions when we can!
: Whilst on the Amiga, I tinkered with a few things but it was not fun anymore. The Amiga scene had nothing to do with the Atari scene, mostly swallowing guys or basic badgers.
On PC I have relocated the menus of the Passwords CDs but I didn' really participate. I didn't have the time nor the desire anymore.
11. What memories do you have of Atari times? Some anecdotes?
: The good times: we did not take the lead and we did it for fun, to be all in front of some bikes and watch the demos, copy, and still copy ... make intros and music. Passwords beat Fuzion at the Aquaboulevard bowling alley and got paid for this at the restaurant.
There was a magazine that advertised us at the time of the copy party report where we (Killers and me) were. This magazine reported the presence of the pirate group Euroswap at this copy party, affirming our courage to be there 'unhidden'. I think we're the only French pirate group on the ST to have free publicity in a magazine!
12. Do you follow the current ST / Falcon scene?
: No, too much work on PC! (Win-doh...)
13. Your opinion on emulators (Steem, SainT, WinSTon, etc.)?
Laurenzo: I know PaCifiST well, and not so new, I'll see a few improvements (and emulation STE and Falcon that I do not know!), But I find very well to be able to find our intros and compiles as well on Atari than on Amiga.
14. Do you have some projects? (all platforms combined)
: Perhaps the creation of a website in the style of yours, but with our compilations from the Atari and Amiga.
15. If you want to add something (greetings, notices, etc.), now is the time to enjoy it;)
: Thanks to you and all those who have kept a little bit of the mood of the ST scene.